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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:22 pm

[quote="Catalina Vista"]Man im so unskilled for putting pictures in net.
Ill try....
Ivbeen polishing all the pitted shiny parts.those anodized aluminum pieces are pita to work.

CV - there is a Polymer solution I've seen that treats the pores of anodised trim, instantly removes the "milky/cloudy" look and restores original finish - have you seen it ?
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:10 am

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I'm in UK....just acquired 59 Bonny coupe for restoration - engine missing heads and I think chances of finding replacement 59 heads this side of the Atlantic is slim to zero.

Have read that Pontiac had warranty issues with gusher heads, pipes becoming clogged and exhaust valves failing, which is why they stopped using them. Maybe that's why mine were robbed ?

Good to see enthuasts here from Finland, France, Denmark  .. any of you guys able to comment on alternative year heads that will work ?


Look here:

http://www.wallaceracing.com/interchange.htm

http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Pontiac_V8_engine

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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:26 pm

Bonsoir 59SC,

Thanks for the links - have not come across these sites before.

I would like to hear and see more of your 59 SC ?

Wallace racing: How do I read the interchangeabilty for heads ? Does it mean that 55-60 heads can be interchanged between the same year of blocks ?

I think the 59 head casting is 531395.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:47 am

sparklyman wrote:
Bonsoir 59SC,

Thanks for the links - have not come across these sites before.

I would like to hear and see more of your 59 SC ?

Wallace racing: How do I read the interchangeabilty for heads ? Does it mean that 55-60 heads can be interchanged between the same year of blocks ?

I think the 59 head casting is  531395.


It is possible to adapt heads from 1961, 62, 63. You need to change the timing cover and water pump

For my Bonneville you can register here. To view the topic.

http://www.dreams-cars.org/forum/topic/17285-pontiac-bonneville-coup%C3%A9-sport-1959/
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:42 am

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Bonsoir 59SC,

Thanks for the links - have not come across these sites before.

I would like to hear and see more of your 59 SC ?

Wallace racing: How do I read the interchangeabilty for heads ? Does it mean that 55-60 heads can be interchanged between the same year of blocks ?

I think the 59 head casting is  531395.
You didnt read my previous post?
Take a call to pg.larsson bildelar.
It.s in sweden tibro.
Has lots of old pontiac parts includin engine parts.
They do not answer email but do talk english.
https://www.pgbildelar.se/
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:50 pm

Catalina Vista wrote:

You didnt read my previous post?
Take a call to pg.larsson bildelar.
It.s in sweden tibro.
Has lots of old pontiac parts includin engine parts.
They do not answer email but do talk english.
https://www.pgbildelar.se/

Thanks for this - I will try to contact them.

Workshop now finished, so I've finally been able to start on the rust and have come back to the forum for guidance....but is the forum very active ?

Will post some photos when I work out how
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:03 pm

Photos   ...  will post in Restorations if anybody is interested and can help me with some advice & guidance over the coming months/years Laughing

As you can see, I am starting at the rear, which is the worst part of the car. Rear brace, tank braces and wheeltub braces all very badly perforated so will have to make new. Trunk drop offs also rotted out - I have started fabrication of new drop-offs. Rear Valance also bad, will need to make new ....but I have replacement trunk pans.... although quality does not look so good (strengthening ribs are very shallow, almost no depth at all)



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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:29 pm

WOW! I feel silly now about complaining because I had to replace just my trunk pan. Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:12 pm

Hi Bob,

Looks as if you're the ONLY person who's interested, so here's some updates for you

Mammoth task, but making progress ....

























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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:21 pm

cheers good job
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:20 pm

Mammoth task is an understatement!  I wouldn't know where to begin. Looking good!


PS I hope your tetanus shots are current! hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:56 am

Hi Bob,

Yeah - 60 year old rust and dirt - amazed how many bags I've put out for the refuse collection, literally lbs of the stuff !

59 Sport Coupe (My friend from France) - Good news, I now have a pair of 59 cylinder heads, arrived last week from USA cheers

Thanks for the interest guys - almost finished the wheeltub skirts, will be moving onto wheeltub braces next - could be a few weeks before I have more photos for you
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:54 am


Hi,

It's interesting we use different techniques for the same pieces.

Do not hesitate to watch this post.
If that can give you information.

http://pontiac-59.darkbb.com/t563p50-coupe-bonneville-59-in-france#6087


Or by registering here (it's free).

http://www.dreams-cars.org/forum/topic/17285-pontiac-bonneville-coup%C3%A9-sport-1959/?page=47

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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:29 pm

Hi JP,

Thanks so much for posting the link - this is really good information, as your restoration is much more advanced than mine.

Your work is very high calibre, very precise & clean.

Also interesting to see the way you made the wheeltub braces, as these are the next phase for me and are complicated pieces.

I see you have added extra braces for the trunk floor, which run parallel to the trunk drop offs _ i assume you wanted to increase strength in these areas ?
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:58 pm

No, I only duplicated the reinforcements that were already on my car.

I just increased the thickness of the metal.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:42 pm

....this is very interesting, my Bonneville did not have these extra side braces on the trunk floor ???

Do you have any photos of this trunk area before you started repairs ?

EDIT

I just found this photo on your other forum. I think this is a photo of another car, where you are showing which parts are OK or rotted on your car ? .... so the trunk side braces were rotted out on your car (Disparu?), is this correct ??



If so, then mine had also completely disappeared, but I did not know it

so your information has been very valuable

This means I have some more braces to make !
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:18 pm

Exact, look at 8 minutes

https://youtu.be/DXcyG7Hbl04
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:50 pm

Superb ! This is so helpful.

I had no idea these side braces existed !

Can you explain the relationship between the side brace and the a) rear trunk brace b) wheel tub brace c) trunk drop off ? (how do the side braces connect with these other 3x pieces ?)

In the video I see;

(7:15) - the outer end of the wheel tub brace sits on top the front end of the side brace

(7:16) - the outer flange of the side brace only touches the side of the trunk drop off (?) - is then any welded connection between these 2x pieces along the length of the side brace?

(7:17) - It looks like the rear of the side brace is welded to the end of the rear brace with a 45 Deg. lap joint ?

Thank you for your help with this JMP

Have you already made these connections

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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:06 pm

Look at this link.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AgeN1Cic9-1NzUSrUBL4v6dIifEh



The front connection is very close to the original.

But the back connection I built it to my idea. Because I did not have an example.

I think catalinas are different from Bonneville.

The remains were upright on my Bonneville. While on the pictures of the catalina have them see S-shaped, at the rear connection.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:38 pm

This is just perfect - I can see all the details now - Thank you so much

I will now have to make the " Longerons" and maybe adjust their rear ends to suit my rear brace also. I have yet to make the curved wheeltub braces,

Your work is so clean and precise - Bravo ! You are very much a perfectionist, it would be great to work alongside you. I will be using your forum restoration topics as reference material - it is so good, you should write a body restoration manual for the 59.

Can you please advise - what is the Green colour to your metalwork - is it the Phosphating P99 you refer to in the other forum ? If so, what is P99 - can you send me link to the product ?

I use POR15 Metal Prep (Prep & Ready), which I assume is a similar conversion coating to your P99 to protect the bare steel from rust ?? The Green colour you have looks like something used in the Aviation Industry maybe ?

PS: is there any connection between the longeron and the trunk drop off ? (All I see is seam sealer I think)

PPS: what is the blue sealant you use - before welding (??)

Sorry....so many questions for you
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:20 pm

tu es une fontaine de connaissance ! Merci Beucoup.

Sorry for all the questions;

what is the blue sealant you use - before welding (??) Does it withstand the heat of welding ?

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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:47 pm

No problem, it is with pleasure. Wink

See page 38. (Colle structurale HP)

http://www.ixell.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/catalogue-ixell_2016_low.pdf
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:28 pm

Thanks for your willingness to answer all my questions.

You are performing some amazing work, far better than factory.

I will be using your work as reference material now ...

...I am behind, I have lots to do !

Regards
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PostSubject: Re: Where is evryone?   Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:59 pm

JP - can you please tell me the connection relationship between the rear valance and the trunk floor pan ?

I am looking at page 35 of your Dream Cars topic, your post of March 11th 2017, where you are making new sides for the trunk floor pan.

I can see where you have removed the rear trunk brace, as it has left a rusty area. It looks as if the rear valance and trunk floor are a single piece from the factory - can you confirm ?

The lower part of my rear valance, and the rear of the trunk floor were completely missing on my car, so I have no reference.

Here is a photo of what is left of my rear valance (I think you call it the rear skirt)

I am not sure if the factory valance and trunk floor were a single piece, or two separate pieces ?

Can you advise please?

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